Curse

Scorpionwitch · Feb 12, 2012, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Thats OK. The only way I'm going to learn about WOC is to read about it here. I've been stuck on What waits in Shadow for 4 months so this is the only way I can finish the story. LOL......

Sinny survivor · Feb 12, 2012, 11:44 PM // 23:44

I've really enjoyed part 3 so far. I really like the added hero reward for completing it again in HM, gives another incentive to play through it again, other than to get to some of the fun fights. i really don't get why people are complaining about it, The HM quests are challenging but nowhere near as frustrating as they were. Best part of the WoC series just a shame that part had such boring quests :/

Porkchop Sandwhiches · Feb 13, 2012, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Iuris

Warning, SPOILERS ahead, of course....

Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode

AngelWJedi · Feb 13, 2012, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches

Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode

weird i didnt see that o.o then again i was to busy keeping idiot monk alive..i guess it must be a hm only part QQ still its rather cute

Swingline · Feb 13, 2012, 03:43 AM // 03:43

I wonder if it will be as boring as HotN. Probably just another stunt to throw more costumes at us.

Chthon · Feb 13, 2012, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by Swingline

I wonder if it will be as boring as HotN. Probably just another stunt to throw more costumes at us.

The infamous thong maybe?

Pyrthas · Feb 13, 2012, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

weird i didnt see that o.o then again i was to busy keeping idiot monk alive..i guess it must be a hm only part QQ still its rather cute

Yes, it's HM only.

Daesu · Feb 13, 2012, 09:47 AM // 09:47

Does anyone else find the rewards a little wierd?

Oath of Purity - Double-click to remove 15% of all party member's Death Penalty. This item cannot be used in PvP.
Cost: 3 Ministerial Commendations

Seal of the Dragon Empire - You (not the rest of your party) gain a 10% morale boost.
Cost: 3 Imperial Guard Requisition Orders, effectively 9 Ministerial Commendations.

From the description, doesn't it sound like Oath of Purity > Seal of the Dragon Empire and yet it is three times cheaper?!

Lordkrall · Feb 13, 2012, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Morale boosts are far better then dp-removal. The DP will get removed by playing and gaining xp.

Oath of Purity might be better if you plan on dying though. ^^

Daesu · Feb 13, 2012, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by Lordkrall

Morale boosts are far better then dp-removal. The DP will get removed by playing and gaining xp.

Oath of Purity might be better if you plan on dying though. ^^

Seal of the Dragon Empire is equivalent to 1 Pumpkin cookie despite its grand sounding name. So 1 Pumpkin cookie is worth a lockbox? Right...

Lordkrall · Feb 13, 2012, 10:26 AM // 10:26

I would say one Pumpkin cookie is worth more than most of the stuff in the lockbox yes

Atleast from a gameplay perspective

EPO Bot · Feb 13, 2012, 11:12 AM // 11:12

**SIGH** It's going to be hard to babysit a bunch of heroes trough the HM version of this, keeping them alive, moving them away from AOE attacks and at the same time making sure the enemy casters go down asap. Maybe it would go smoother if i switched to smite?

Wielder Of Magic · Feb 13, 2012, 11:14 AM // 11:14

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

**SIGH** It's going to be hard to babysit a bunch of heroes trough the HM version of this, keeping them alive, moving them away from AOE attacks and at the same time making sure the enemy casters go down asap. Maybe it would go smoother if i switched to smite?

When I did it with a monk friend RoJ+technobabble did an amazing job

MisterB · Feb 13, 2012, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Daesu

Does anyone else find the rewards a little wierd?

Oath of Purity - Double-click to remove 15% of all party member's Death Penalty. This item cannot be used in PvP.
Cost: 3 Ministerial Commendations

Seal of the Dragon Empire - You (not the rest of your party) gain a 10% morale boost.
Cost: 3 Imperial Guard Requisition Orders, effectively 9 Ministerial Commendations.

From the description, doesn't it sound like Oath of Purity > Seal of the Dragon Empire and yet it is three times cheaper?!

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Powerstone_of_Courage

These exist, so there's not much point in either one of those two.

LordDragon · Feb 13, 2012, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches

Wohoo! I'm way more interested in the original henchmen than Gwen. I guess this means I need to play hard mode

What are you talking about Gwen is THE original henchman. She is your first healer in the game if you start in prophecies.

Not a very good healer mind you but she does toss off the random heal every now and then.

Iuris · Feb 13, 2012, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by MisterB

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Powerstone_of_Courage

These exist, so there's not much point in either one of those two.

Yeah, but they're unfortunately quite expensive to craft. Not really on par with three IG requisitions, but still...

Charlie Dayman · Feb 13, 2012, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I'm not sure if it was just this mission, but has anyone else had a Ministerial Commendation drop after killing MOP members? I should have taken a screenshot, but I had one drop for me during the "Warning the Tengu" mission in HM. Maybe it was a boss drop, but I don't ever remember that happening before in NM or anywhere else.

EDIT: Psh, should have read the Wiki first - they do drop randomly from the MoP.

dasmitchies · Feb 14, 2012, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Hm is unbalanced, lazy developers

Galen Ubal · Feb 14, 2012, 05:02 AM // 05:02

I'm just about done with WOC, and I'm starting to wonder...what does the Emperor think of all this? I haven't seen him mentioned at all, and a quick look through the quest dialogues don't really mention him (though I could have missed something).
So, what's up with his silence? With all of this going on, you'd think we'd talk to him once or twice - after all, we are the Heroes of Cantha, saving his bacon once again.
Or...maybe he's the mysterious Xun Rao?
John Stumme has this to say about Xun

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I will say nothing further on the matter of Xun Rao, except that what you see (or don't see) of him is intentional. [[John_Stumme|'''John Stumme''']] 06:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

(From his wiki talk page)
That's a wild guess...otherwise, though, the silence from the Emperor is rather puzzling.
Another guess - they're not the same person, but Xun has Kisu bottled up in some way.

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Or, I could have looked further down the same page, and seen that the Emperor was just...left out.
Nevermind.

Daesu · Feb 14, 2012, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

Maybe it was a boss drop, but I don't ever remember that happening before in NM or anywhere else.

Yes they do drop in NM too. Happened to me at least twice.

I completed WoC by partying up 2 characters (from different accounts, of course), so I get twice the rewards by just going through it once. And yes, I control 2 keyboards. Even for the 4-man quests it is still possible to control 2 characters at the same time, at least in NM, I will try out HM if I can find time.

Well...except for that solo quest where I have to do it twice.